00:12:38 Madison Tang: Hello those who are joining early! Thank you so much for joining. We will be starting at the hour 00:15:22 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: You can view info on the full Coalition Peace webinar series topics & speakers on their site here: https://www.coalitionpeaceinitiative.org/activities/ 00:16:22 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: You can sign Coalition Peace Initiative’s petition calling for peace with China here: https://www.change.org/CoalitionPeaceInitiative 00:18:38 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Hello and thanks to those who are joining early! We will be starting at the hour. Please feel free to introduce yourself & where you are calling from :) 00:19:43 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Join CODEPINK’s next China Is Not Our Enemy webinar 11/18 at 8pm ET with Mass. Peace Action on Tensions over Taiwan: Preventing Nuclear War with Carl Zha http://masspeaceaction.org/event/tensions-over-taiwan-preventing-nuclear-war/ 00:20:34 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Please enjoy the sounds of Chinese classical pipa, also known as lute! 00:22:52 Don Leskiw: I like the poem "Song of the Lute" by Bai Juyi 00:25:26 Don Leskiw: Hi Mei. It's at https://www.amazon.com/Selected-Masterpieces-Bai-Juyi-translation/dp/153939560X/ 00:28:12 FAHIM SHIRAZEE: Hello Everyone! 00:29:42 Michael Wong: Great music! 00:29:56 Jeffery Hull: Good evening 😀 00:33:19 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Thanks everyone for joining us for this week in our series promoting peace b/t the US & China! Please feel free to introduce yourself in the chat and where you’re joining from. 00:33:44 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Thank you to this webinar series’ co-sponsoring orgs: CODEPINK - Women for Peace: Follow the CODEPINK China Is Not Our Enemy campaign at http://codepink.org/china & on Twitter at https://twitter.com/chinanotenemy 
 Global Alliance for Preserving the History of WWII in Asia (GA) https://www.global-alliance.net/mission.html
 Hawai’i Peace and Justice http://www.wp.hawaiipeaceandjustice.org/ 
 International Action Center (IAC) https://iacenter.org/ 
 International Peace Bureau (IPB) https://www.ipb.org/ 
 New Jersey Alliance for Learning and Preserving the History of WWII in Asia (NJ-ALPHA) https://nj-alpha.org/ 
 Pivot to Peace https://peacepivot.org/ 
 Toronto ALPHA Education
 https://www.alphaeducation.org/ Veterans for Peace – Hawai’i – Chapter 113 Veterans for Peace – Northern New Jersey Chapter Veterans for Peace – San Francisco – Chapter https://www.veteransforpeace.org/ 00:34:04 Michael Wong: Hello from Michael Wong, Veterans For Peace, San Francisco. 00:34:20 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Yes, thank you Don for your vision and ambition in organizing this amazing educational series educating people on US & Chinese history ❤️ 00:34:30 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: You can view info on the full Coalition Peace webinar series topics & speakers on their site here: https://www.coalitionpeaceinitiative.org/activities/ 00:34:38 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: 👉 Register through Zoom with your name to receive reminders for all 9 weeks: http://tiny.cc/registertruth 00:34:45 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: 👉 View the webinars later on CODEPINK's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbIEXcAZ-4ZbEeP73siHQNI9YQWRYC5HC 00:35:18 FAHIM SHIRAZEE: UT Austin is my alma mater! 00:35:44 tarak Kauff: Tarak Kauff pleased to be here from Woodstock, NY and NYC Veterans For Peace. 00:35:47 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Within a week after each webinar, the links for the replay video, the audio podcast files, and the ChatBox comments will be sent out to registrants and can be found on the Coalition Peace Initiative website:
 https://www.coalitionpeaceinitiative.org/replay-files-for-webinar-series/ 00:37:23 Peter Lam: Good work Dr. Don ! 00:37:28 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: @Tarak thanks for joining! Veterans for Peace are crucial coalition partners of CODEPINK and the China Is Not Our Enemy campaign 💞 00:39:13 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Learn more about the Comfort Women Justice Coalition here:

https://remembercomfortwomen.org/ 00:40:15 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Please feel free to submit questions for the panelists in the Q&A box/icon at the bottom of the Zoom window! 00:41:48 Michael Wong: Tarak Kauff has served on the National Board of Veterans For Peace (VFP), is the editor of "Peace & Planet News," and an important leader in VFP. 00:43:05 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Thanks for your all your work in the peace movement, Tarak! 00:47:52 Michael Wong: Here's the link to "Peace & Planet News" online: https://peaceandplanetnews.org/ 00:48:59 Lisa Shek: Hi Mei. Good to see you. 00:49:52 Stefan Langenborg: I looked this up myself the other day! 00:50:19 Stefan Langenborg: wild amounts of money paid 00:51:16 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: I am showing the NED grant search database, available to the public 00:51:47 Stefan Langenborg: amnesty international just announced they were leaving HK I think 00:51:49 Michael Wong: Here's the link to the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) funding for Hong Kong riots. Source: National Endowment for Democracy: https://www.ned.org/wp-content/themes/ned/search/grant-search.php?organizationName=®ion=Asia&projectCountry=China&amount=&fromDate=&toDate=&projectFocus%5B%5D=&projectFocus%5B%5D=&projectFocus%5B%5D=&projectFocus%5B%5D=&projectFocus%5B%5D=&projectFocus%5B%5D=&projectFocus%5B%5D=&projectFocus%5B%5D=&projectFocus%5B%5D=&projectFocus%5B%5D=&projectFocus%5B%5D=&projectFocus%5B%5D=&projectFocus%5B%5D=&search=&maxCount=100&orderBy=Country&start=1&sbmt=1 and https://www.ned.org/region/asia/hong-kong-china-2020/ 00:52:13 Stefan Langenborg: good proof that the empire has given up on subverting through HK for now 00:54:13 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Is everyone able to hear the audio okay? 00:54:49 Stefan Langenborg: I am yeah 00:54:55 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Perfect 👍 00:55:02 Michael Wong: Yes. 00:55:09 Cecilia Young: Yes, the audio is fine. 00:57:38 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Please feel free to submit questions for the panelists in the Q&A box/icon at the bottom of the Zoom window. 00:59:01 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Thank you Judge Tang! 00:59:42 Jeffery Hull: Thank you Judge Tang 00:59:46 Yvonne Lee: Thank you Judge Julie Tang, good points. 01:00:06 Michael Wong: Thanks to Judge Julie Tang! 01:00:43 Ann Wright: Thanks Judge Julie Tang, excellent presentation! 01:01:28 tarak Kauff: Thank you Judge Tang! This is so needed! 01:01:57 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Many Westerners are not aware that there are other ethnic minorities who practice Islam in Xinjiang besides Uyghurs 01:02:07 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: And beyond Xinjiang as well 01:02:34 FAHIM SHIRAZEE: Are they mostly Shia or Sunni? 01:04:36 Stefan Langenborg: https://thecradle.co/Article/analysis/1707 01:05:05 Stefan Langenborg: on Muslim states' position on the reeducation work 01:06:04 Stefan Langenborg: https://youtu.be/ag63YqEH2uM good interview with a Pakistani man who rode his bike from Beijing all through Xinjiang 01:06:31 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Members of the pubic can also search the NED grant database site for public US funds that have been used regarding Xinjiang 01:07:39 Stefan Langenborg: the interview brings up a great point comparing the antiterrorism approach of the US in Afghanistan to the approach taken by china in Xinjiang 01:08:12 Stefan Langenborg: the us has absolutely 0 moral/reasonable basis to critique any state's treatment of muslims 01:09:33 Stefan Langenborg: @ fahim, I'm not sure about the population as a whole but the etim/separatist group is definitely sunni 01:11:22 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: There are more than 24,000 mosques in Xinjiang, which is over ten times more than in the U.S. 01:12:27 FAHIM SHIRAZEE: Thanks Stefan! I need to look it up. You can always tell Sunni or Shia when you watch them in prayer. 01:13:44 Stefan Langenborg: it's grim to say but one of the recent attacks against a shia mosque in Afghanistan was by an ethnic Uyghur affiliated with etim 01:13:54 Ann Wright: The crafts look similar to Uzbekistan. 01:14:15 Michael Wong: Stefan is referring to the East Turkistan Islamic Movement (ETIM), which carried out hundreds of terrorist attacks in China, has links to ISIS, advocates creating a separatist state in Xinjiang, and has had off and on again links to the CIA. 01:14:39 Stefan Langenborg: definitely, the central Asian region has some of the most beautiful culture and art 01:15:05 Stefan Langenborg: thank you for adding that context Michael! 01:15:26 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: This is not to say that there are not problems or human rights and surveillance issues that China’s government should continue to work on addressing, as it has been doing, but that the global issue of extremist terrorist movements is complicated. This complex region and its internal development and issues should not be distorted to be used to manufacture consent for more disastrous, deadly US wars and interventions. US interventions in Muslim nations and regions have never improved human rights 01:16:18 Stefan Langenborg: exactly, the US has nothing to offer the region but greater disruption, violence, and pain 01:17:52 Stefan Langenborg: etim (extremist Uyghur) militants have been very active in Syria and even Libya as well! 01:18:34 Stefan Langenborg: in Libya!!!! these are the people the US recently took off the list of terrorist groups 01:18:35 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Tragically, the most recent Uyghur Islamic militant bombing of a dozen worshipping Shiite Muslims in Afghanistan was in the beginning of October 

https://www.npr.org/2021/10/09/1044697022/suicide-bomb-explosion-rips-through-a-shiite-mosque-in-northern-afghanistan 01:19:12 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: This should never be used to discriminate against Uyghur Muslims in China, but there is indeed a legitimate extremist movement that has taken many lives and wounded many 01:19:41 Johnson Choi: Most of the Xinjiang Terrorists are supported and funded by USA 01:19:47 Stefan Langenborg: important to note that terrorism and extremist violence has obviously hurt and killed uyghurs in Xinjiang as well 01:20:10 Stefan Langenborg: these people cannot be understood as standing for or acting in the interest of the people of Xinjiang 01:21:11 Stefan Langenborg: the development and rising of living standards in Xinjiang is also remarkable 01:21:42 Stefan Langenborg: and an obvious contrast can be drawn against Afghanistan, a case study in the US version of 'nation building' in the region 01:21:43 Johnson Choi: US supported more Terrorists groups around than anyone else! US does it in the name of fake democracy human rights and rules of laws 01:22:09 Michael Wong: Most Muslims in Xinjiang are moderate Muslims. ETIM is an extremist organization whose beliefs are similar to ISIS. If they ever gained control of an area, they would institute an extreme form of Islam similar to ISIS. 01:22:15 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Most street signs in Xinjiang have three languages including Uyghur language variant of Turkish/Arabic 01:22:43 Stefan Langenborg: US and the UK before them have always stoked extremist islamist movements to undermine states that could impede us interests 01:22:58 Stefan Langenborg: there's a book on this by mark Curtis called secret affairs 01:23:12 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Here is a great overview of events surrounding Xinjiang from 1989-present by our partners Qiao Collective that does not make any conclusion besides presenting information. Investigate the facts for yourself! Don’t simply trust all mainstream media and State Department information

https://www.qiaocollective.com/en/education/xinjiang 01:23:17 Stefan Langenborg: management of savagery by max Blumenthal as well covers this in detail 01:24:02 Stefan Langenborg: saudi arabia involved in this as well, was largely a response to secular and socialist nationalism like Nasser promoted in West asia 01:24:22 Michael Wong: Why does the US fear China? See my article: 01:24:30 Michael Wong: https://peacepivot.org/the-china-fear-factor/ 01:25:20 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: @Gerald Absolutely, the US has been trying to sabotage China’s ambitious alternative global trade project, the Belt and Road Initiative, since its planning stages 01:26:27 Rev. James Swarts: Stefan is correct about the beauty of the art and culture of Central and Western China. 01:26:48 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Here is Gerald Belsky’s comment I was referring to:

“The reason for the destabilization of China and false charges of genocide, is to undermine the Belt and Road, which the Schiller Institute has long advocated as the New Silk Road of infrastructure corridors of development. This New Silk Road policy is the basis for a new paradigm of Peace through Development.” 01:27:26 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: The food in Xinjiang is amazing because of the Chinese & Arab influences, and because the region has so much wheat, there are amazing breads and wheat noodles 01:28:48 Stefan Langenborg: the US is also engineering coups in Africa to undermine the BRI project 01:29:26 Johnson Choi: US has the largest prison worker’s 01:29:27 Stefan Langenborg: well I would actually disagree on that point 01:29:32 Cecilia Young: The grapes in Xinjiang is famous too!! 01:29:58 Stefan Langenborg: https://twitter.com/ppls_programs/status/1452675985409728525?t=PiWlz66SHYXSK0JQ-IQb-g&s=19 01:30:33 Jeffery Hull: Thank you Doctor Tow 01:30:36 Stefan Langenborg: thank you to everyone for your great information! 01:30:39 Ann Wright: Thanks Don!! 01:30:45 FAHIM SHIRAZEE: Thank you all very much for the session. 01:30:56 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Thank you Dr. Tow! & Judge Sing 01:31:46 Michael Wong: Thank you, Don, Julie, and Lillian! Great job, all of you! And thanks to Madison for tech support. 01:31:47 Ping Hua: thank you, great job, well done 01:32:01 Stefan Langenborg: looking forward to it! 01:32:33 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Within a week after each webinar, the links for the replay video, the audio podcast files, and the ChatBox comments will be sent out to registrants and can be found on the Coalition Peace Initiative website:
 https://www.coalitionpeaceinitiative.org/replay-files-for-webinar-series/ 01:32:37 Benny Pang: Many thanks to the team! It was very informative and useful. Thanks to all rpesenters especially Judge Julie Tang> 01:32:44 Marilyn Wong Gleysteen: Why are these limited to only an hour, so that the speakers have to squeeze their talks into 20 minutes. If we contribute something, couldn’t this be extended to an hour and half? 01:32:51 Jeffery Hull: Xinjiang cotton farms appreciates John Deer tractors ✌️ 01:32:57 Andrew Chang: Thank you Judge Tang and Dr Tow! 01:33:05 Ping Hua: bye from UK 01:33:11 Madison Tang, CODEPINK: Thank you everyone for joining!